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20 October 2016 16:35 Post ID: #128754 - in reply to #128722
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As mistake ridden as Williams' performances were on occasions last season it has to be said that we have been far more vulnerable without our former captain leading the back line. Amat is a decent centre back but needs someone stronger alongside him, both Fernandez and Van Der Hoorn do not fit the bill and of course Mawson is untried at this level. Seems Jenkins gambled that we would manage without bringing in an experienced defender this summer and unfortunately so far results show that we are leaking unnecessary goals that have already cost us points.

Not sure what Bob can do to rectify this in the short term but his experiment of reuniting Amat and Fernandez certainly backfired at the Emirates, I'd be inclined to use Amat and Van Der Hoorn on Saturday as they did look a better pairing in Guidolin's final games.
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20 October 2016 23:23 Post ID: #128762 - in reply to #128754
Ryan Casey
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Why not give mawson his test. We are out of options at this point. The closest thing to a reasonable pairing was vdh and amat but if all options are poor the opportunity for mawson could potentially ve worth the gamble... as it stands though certaing vdh as i think he will strengthen which ever he is paired with.
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21 October 2016 16:51 Post ID: #128769 - in reply to #128752
Roger Freestone
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Jonesy314 - 20/10/2016 08:51

Thats it though, i dont believe heas suited to the attacking role. Look over his games ither than thr goals he has done nothing at all. So hes provided us with about a total of 5 minutes of good quality all season. Hes taking up a position and is essentilly dead weight for the majority of the game. Hes probabmy created more opportunities for the oppositions than he has us with his poor choices and bll retention...


I know what you mean, yet I bet you that Leroy Fer will be seen as a regular for the season simply for those goals. Not to mention the pressure he puts us under when he loses the ball.
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21 October 2016 16:53 Post ID: #128770 - in reply to #128754
Roger Freestone
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Swan_Lady2 - 20/10/2016 16:35

As mistake ridden as Williams' performances were on occasions last season it has to be said that we have been far more vulnerable without our former captain leading the back line. Amat is a decent centre back but needs someone stronger alongside him, both Fernandez and Van Der Hoorn do not fit the bill and of course Mawson is untried at this level. Seems Jenkins gambled that we would manage without bringing in an experienced defender this summer and unfortunately so far results show that we are leaking unnecessary goals that have already cost us points.

Not sure what Bob can do to rectify this in the short term but his experiment of reuniting Amat and Fernandez certainly backfired at the Emirates, I'd be inclined to use Amat and Van Der Hoorn on Saturday as they did look a better pairing in Guidolin's final games.


Lets be honest, none of our defenders are top Premier League quality, or haven't proven to be as yet. Ashley Williams was, and as mentioned, he helped whoever was alongside him to look somewhat Premier League quality. With him gone, we now look like a proper bottom three defence, one that leaks goals and looks like it could concede at any time.

I don't agree with the idea of bringing in a totally new defensive partnership, but van der Hoorn and Amat looked a good pairing before Arsenal.
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21 October 2016 22:29 Post ID: #128780 - in reply to #128769
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I think he will to. But if you analysis the games properly id bet good money he's responsible for assisting/setting up more chances for the opposition than he has including his goals for us. His goals will drop once the original chances start getting put away and confidence comes back to our quality players which will hopefully see him falling out of favour. I will admit though in quite the pessimist this season, i think we will survive but even on the better performance such as barrow this weekend i still struggle to see past the fault. Again this will change when it starts to look like players are turning up for the shirt and not the mandatory attendance to collect a pay slip!
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21 October 2016 22:32 Post ID: #128781 - in reply to #128770
Ryan Casey
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Under normal circumstances i agree, make them work in uncompetitive matches and fight for PL position but if vdh amat doesnt work do you not agree that taking the gamble on a new pairing for a game or 2 is better than waiting for the transfer window and hoping we get investment?
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21 October 2016 23:50 Post ID: #128783 - in reply to #128722
Robbie James
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what if that new pairing doesn't work? You've got to put faith in a pairing and stick with it. Amat and van der hoorn looked good enough so stick with it. I know Bradley said about a clean slate and everything but Fernandez and Amat will relegate us. They're a disaster together
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22 October 2016 07:54 Post ID: #128784 - in reply to #128783
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I agree that vdh amat should be given a few games see how that works out over a period because they were the closest thing to solid we had so far. I just think with a defence leaking as much as it is we can't do much worse experimenting.
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