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21 October 2013 00:16 Post ID: #124177 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Williams (Herbie)

Maybe ML is trying to keep Leon fresh, he has had back problems and is only now getting back to full fitness, certainly was immense for us yesterday and an inspiration to the rest of the team. De Guzman tends to play well when the team does, he goes missing when the chips are down but can't complain about his contribution yesterday. Interesting to read stats on Bony, his unseen work to create space for others is overlooked by many who just want to see goals from him but do believe he is going to be vital for our future success.
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21 October 2013 10:51 Post ID: #124180 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Xavi Alonso
I am cursing this site. My post has disappeared on this thread,when I pressed the submit button.Do I have to copy each post in order to paste it back on when it disappears? I'll start again -
Well done Leon,he's shown the forwards that if you run at defences you can get penalties,instead of passing the ball to death around the penalty area.If only JDG would shoot more,what a goal that was,but that goes for the rest of the team too,shoot on sight,and you'll get those deflections as well. Bony will come,he's not used to being the lone striker,and is often isolated and marked out of the game due to lack of support.Contrary to the views of the extremists on Planet Swans,who are knocking him,no wonder that site is in decline,where,for every poster's view there's another just waiting to verbally abuse them.
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21 October 2013 15:22 Post ID: #124187 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Yorath (Terry)

I'll back Bony to the hilt, have been watching him closely of late because of much uncalled critisism due obviously to the high price tag. He usually starts off each game quite slowly but gets stronger and more influencial as games progress, is yet to form a great understanding with the wingers who I believe should be giving him better service but that will come the more he adapts to his team mates. I know he did miss one good chance on Saturday which will have not helped his cause but the way he put the penalty away oozed class and I do believe we will see more of that as the season progresses.
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22 October 2013 09:37 Post ID: #124195 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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He's already scored six goals,and I'm sure he'll score a lot more this season.
I think you're right about ML rationing Leon's game time due to a back injury. Monk is another that has back injury problems,I wonder if he'll partner Chico on Thursday.
Kuban Krasnodar a bit of an unknown for us,although someone from our club must have travelled to Russia to assess them. They've got a new coach,Viktor Goncharenko from FC Bate Bonsov (he was linked to the Sunderland job in the summer). They lost to 3-1 away to Spartak Moscow last Saturday. Jibril Cisse (ex-QPR) plays for them,apparently.
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22 October 2013 11:27 Post ID: #124201 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Adam Matthews

We all have our favourite players along with ones we're not that keen on, even amongst our own fans we can disagree on who should be first pick but we know the manager has the final say. ML has done most things right in picking and choosing, the one time he didn't and we lost 5-0 at Liverpool last season he held up his hands and admitted he had one eye on the Capital One game the following week.

I do believe ML values Leon highly but knows that with so many games to play he needs to limit his game time so to bring in Canas who has different qualities but can still do a similar job in that defensive midfield position makes good sense. I'm not a huge fan of De Guzman but can see the qualities that he can bring to the side when things are going well similarly Shelvey who on his day can be dynamic. The players I admire the most are those that always give everything for the team rather than for their own glory and that is why my current favourites are obviously Leon and Michu, don't think I have ever seen a more driven player than him. He may not get things right all the time but what determination he has and when he does get it right he is magnificent, I'm just savouring the time we have him with us.

As for the game on Thursday will be interesting to see what team our manager chooses, so far he has fielded strong sides in Europe and I believe he will do the same this time as to win this game will aid our cause in progressing to the knock out phase significantly. He knows we have another very important game v West Ham a few days later but can see most of the team we fielded against Sunderland being involved though Tremmel should get his chance and as I suggested he may play Canas and possibly Shelvey instead of Leon and De Guzman. No news at all on Pablo but will be concerned if he is not at least named as a sub against the Russians as it could mean that he may have more injury problems.
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23 October 2013 08:18 Post ID: #124211 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Bill Foulkes
I can't see LB ever being recognised by England,as he's too small,and has a long term back problem,unfortunately,but good enough,certainly.
No word on Pablo,is he another one made of glass? He's a creative player and we have missed him,but his defensive work is not good and he often leaves the full back exposed.
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23 October 2013 15:18 Post ID: #124216 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Clive Allen

ML in his press conference ahead of the game tomorrow has confirmed that Pablo will be in the squad which is good news though tempered by the fact that Ash is still unavailable and Ben out for between three and four weeks. Thankfully we have Taylor back and wonder if given this chance he will cement his place back in the side and therefore young Ben will have to wait his turn. Good problem to have provided of course at least one of them is fit.

As for Leon he sadly has never been looked upon as England material, just goes to show the type of player they go for particularly under Hodgson. Had Rednapp been appointed I do believe our boy would have at least been given an opportunity as Harry recognised his talents but he sadly has been overlooked by other England managers because of his small stature. We know how lucky we are to have him and appreciate his fantastic skills and dedication which has served us so well over the last ten years (minus the six months in Sheffield of course). Remember how sad I was when he left for Bramall Lane and the elation upon his return, his first match back at Barnsley when he came on as a sub and just slipped back into the side so naturally stands out in my mind.

Edited by Swan_Lady2 23/10/2013 15:25
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24 October 2013 09:20 Post ID: #124224 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Djibril Cisse
Pablo back in tonight,and he revealed today that his ex-teamate from Valencia,Angel Dealbert plays for Kuban in central defence. So that's two of the team that we know something about,the other being ex-Liverpool,Sunderland and QPR player,Frenchman Djibril Cisse,or should that be Lord Cisse,after he inherited the title by buying a £2 mill manor in Cheshire. He has been Lord of the Manor of Frodsham since 2005!
Leighton James was praising Leon in his column today, his MOM last Saturday. He also says that Leon and Canas should both play together in front of the defence,leaving Michu free of defensive duties.
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24 October 2013 17:40 Post ID: #124232 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Edgar (David)

What do we want from tonight's match..a win obviously to boost confidence amongst the players plus a clean sheet if possible and no injuries for our important league games ahead. Expect Canas to play tonight and maybe Shelvey though it is never easy to predict the side ML puts out which is no bad thing of course and keeps the opposition guessing as well as our fans.
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25 October 2013 09:03 Post ID: #124236 - in reply to #123990
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Fellaini,Marouane
What we got was neither,as Kuban stole the point in the last minute. Injuries? Pablo was missing again,not even on the bench,after stating he was fit two games ago. Monk though, re-appeared on the bench,not having played since the Birmingham shambles. Wrong selection in midfield for me,last night,as we struggled to create anything.
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25 October 2013 16:29 Post ID: #124244 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Guillem Bauza (gone to Port Talbot?!)

We really missed Leon in midfield last night had no one to keep the ball or get things moving, Canas was below par whilst Shelvey once again tried to play the spectacular pass only for every one of them to be wayward causing problems for whoever they were meant for. Playing Tiendali only proved to me that he is no substitute for Angel whilst Lamah did very little when given the opportunity as sub for Nathan.

Very frustrating night as our passing game was almost non existent especially during the first half and late on when we looked in disarray at times, to be fair to the Russians they worked extremely hard to close us down and had several chances themselves before the late pen squared it.
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26 October 2013 09:48 Post ID: #124265 - in reply to #123990
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Hazard,Eden
Haven't seen the match,nothing on Swans Player two days after,what a useless site it's become.
Quite a few had poor games on Thursday,which is disappointing,considering they're fighting for a first team place.
No easy games,and a tough one coming up tomorrow.
Hopefully the weather will hold,a severe storm is expected Sunday evening/Monday morning
No word on Ash,but even if fit,he's not match fit,same goes for Pablo,but ideally we need both back soonest.
The area where we thought we were strongest,midfield,is not working for us at the moment,and we need to sort it out for the next game. It was overcrowded and disjointed on Thursday.Shelvey needs to calm down and get some consistency,he's too erratic at the moment.
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26 October 2013 18:09 Post ID: #124275 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Ian Evans

Shelvey needs to realise that he is a professional footballer and act accordingly, why he and Wayne Routledge were photographed in Wind Street at 4am a few nights ago does worry me, no wonder those two tend to run out of steam before the final whistle. Hope our other lads are not following suit, would be concerned if we are heading back to a previous era when they all went late drinking on a regular basis, just can't afford to have players who aren't prepared to make sacrifices whilst we are competing at the highest level. The Spaniards seem to be better behaved and I just hope that our manager has a word with those that are letting the club and fans down.
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27 October 2013 08:44 Post ID: #124279 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Jack Wilshere
I'm surprised,I haven't read about this at all. If true,they need to be disciplined by the club. For me,Routledge hasn't been the same player since signing a new contract. We've just got rid of two players who liked to party,now another two pop up.
Saw the match on ITV Player,tortured myself and watched it from beginning to end. Strachan blamed Chico for advancing to far up the field,and Tremmel for being too slow coming off his line. Yet it was Canas who was the original culprit.he'd booted the ball loosely upfield,instead of holding and passing it. Shelvey ran on to it,but was blocked by three players and was bound to lose the ball. It was booted straight back and Chico was caught out of position.
We'll have to watch this type of hoofball today,as West Ham are specialists at it.
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27 October 2013 12:48 Post ID: #124286 - in reply to #123990
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Kevin Davies

Not common knowledge but photo is on another forum taken by a fan from Denmark who'd come over for the first time to watch us against Sunderland. He was surprised to see two Swans players out at that time of the morning with important games coming up.

Couldn't face watching the whole game back from Thursday but did see the penalty incident again, I thought it was the correct decision at the time as Tremmel caught the forward as he went through. Several players at fault but so frustrating as we should have just played out the final seconds in their half, shame we lacked our captain that night as I couldn't imagine Ashley letting that happen.

Anyway today is another day (and a stormy one at the that) so it gives us another chance to get things right although it won't be easy as the conditions are bound to effect certain aspects of play. Leon surely has to play and I do wonder if Hernandes is ready even if named having had no game time for weeks. Doubt if Ash will be ready either, his ankle injury was more serious than any of us thought and although he has played through the pain barrier in the past it would be unwise to risk doing more damage by coming back too soon.
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28 October 2013 08:46 Post ID: #124305 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Lescott,Joleon
The match was all that we expected from West Ham. With a 4-6-0 formation,they'd come to defend deep and hit us on the break with their route one football,something they had done so well in their 0-3 demolition of Spurs,but ugly to watch.
Helped on by Phil Dowd and yet another team of weak officials,they were allowed to get away with their over robust tactics,and gain free kicks by play acting for fouls to relieve danger in their half,or get free kicks in dangerous positions in our half. Not that we expected any different from teams led by the big fat man,as his Bolton team were the same,and now with West Ham again,they are a poor advert for the Premier League. The Chico incident showed how embarassing Allardyce was,with him cursiing and laughing,trying to provoke Chico,after he was felled by Carlton Cole in front of the dugout,with the fourth official timidly watching on in the background. The bully Allardyce was effing and blinding aloud throughout,and his foul mouthed rantings could be heard clearly in the stand,not a good example to the young kids sitting behind him.
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28 October 2013 15:55 Post ID: #124316 - in reply to #123990
Ivor Allchurch
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Michael Owen

Allardyce is a dour and obnoxious bully, we can only be glad that our board would never employ him in a million years thank goodness, I wonder how the purists who used to watch the fantastic football from West Ham in the sixties feel about the way they play these days. Yes they get results but what an ugly way to play, Bobby Moore would be turning in his grave to see what has become of his club.

On the field yesterday you also had Nolan in the ref's ear throughout and it was no surprise that Dowd bottled the obvious late penalty, Michael Oliver on the other hand gave Spurs the spot kick yesterday for a similar hand ball at White Hart Lane...
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