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07 November 2013 20:39 Post ID: #124460 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Zejtun Corinthians
Yes no explanation for that,and he was visibly struggling.
And so it's on to Stoke after another frustrating night in Europe. You'd think we'd have learned a lesson from the home match,but to do almost the same thing again is maddening.
Stoke will be as desperate as we are for points,so not an easy game,and no Michu,no Vorm,no Pablo
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08 November 2013 15:51 Post ID: #124466 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Ajax of Amsterdam

But we still have enough quality in the side to create problems for Stoke, it is getting the balance right in midfield plus taking chances that come our way that will turn things around for us...ML was not too critical of the team after Russia because he needs to try lift & spirits with so much critisism around. Even with Michu out we can improve as I saw some good play in the first half last night but the team will need our total support on Sunday even when there are difficult periods in the match. Keep the faith.
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09 November 2013 11:03 Post ID: #124475 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Barcelona
Stoke are a huge side with the likes of Crouch and Huth,and we 'll have our work cut out with defending set pieces.
Strange kick off time 4pm,I read somewhere that we had the choice of 1.30 or 4,I would have preferred earlier,it gets dark at 4.30 in this dull weather.
A win will buoy everybody up,a defeat will deflate evrybody,either way we will have to sit on it for two weeks with yet another break for meaningless international friendlies.
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09 November 2013 13:17 Post ID: #124479 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Clydebank Thistle

The kick off time I think is actually 4.10pm which is probably the weirdest time we've ever started a game, no idea why unless we wanted to take the maximum amount of time allowed before playing. The team could be feeling the affects of the long journey back from Russia though they did train at 2pm yesterday and again today apparently. If only we could have held on to that lead on Thursday, to lose a goal at the death will have not helped team spirit or confidence but it is up to the management to get things right tomorrow and for us as fans to back the team throughout the game. Any negativity will only help the opposition but some of our "spectators" seem to enjoy running the team down during the game which does the job for the opposition, get behind the team please or stay away.
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10 November 2013 10:37 Post ID: #124486 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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(Borussia)Dortmund
Yes,weird time.I think the Kuban home match was 8.05pm,another odd kick off time.
We have some fresh legs with Shelvey and Britton,possibly Taylor,to come back.
They've been trying some innovative ideas to combat muscle fatigue and jet lag,there's an informative article that can be found on the News Now site. Also another article on how we've lost our Swansalona style,and the passionless showing at Cardiff coupled with the emotionless dug out.
All this will be forgotten if we win today,lose and the cyber warriors will have a field day.
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11 November 2013 08:42 Post ID: #124500 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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(FC) Ekonomac,Serbia
Once again the match headlines are about the ref and not the game,as we were robbed of a result through inept refereeing. One had to wonder if the biased Robert Madely,seemingly fresh out from his park football apprenticeship,had an agenda with our players after they vigorously appealed his every decision,as the yellow cards were shown with alarming frequency.
Routledge rubbed the ref up the wrong way by delaying walking over to him when called to be booked,and wasn't it ironic that he adjudged Routledge to have handled the ball in the final seconds of the match for the penalty that never was.
It started when Rangel clearly chested the ball down for a clearance just outside the penalty area,hand ball given,free kick was cleared by Canas for a corner. Corner taken,cleared by Bony,ref decides it had to be taken again. Ball hits Routledge on the arm,which was not raised,deflects past Britton and out for another corner. Ref says penalty,a surprise to everyone in the ground including the opposition. The game restarts and the ref blows the whistle,two minutes into the five minutes of extra time.
Even Mark Hughes thought Stoke were lucky to get the penalty,and the MOTD pundits agreed. They showed in the replay that the ref had a good view of the alleged "hand ball" and said if the ref was not 100% sure,he should not have given it. Both Martin Keown and Alan Shearer agreed that it was in no way a penalty.
After a lethargic first half the first goal came when Ash was injured and had to leave the field. He wanted to come straight back on but the ref wouldn't let him. Ironically Stoke broke away and scored through the glaring gap in defence that Ash had left,with Ash frantically waving to come back on,0-1 to the ref. It was soon 0-2 as our concentration was shot by the refereeing mistakes.
Second half we made a tremendous fightback,with Bony scoring two great goals,Dyer the other. Both Dyer and Shelvey turning the game in our favour when they came on.
It gives us great heart for the rest of the season after that second half showing of grit and determination.
The ref,let's hope we never have him again,and he's dropped down to Conference football where he belongs.
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12 November 2013 09:19 Post ID: #124505 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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double post,site stuck on submit message for ages before I had to press the submit button again,and then up pop the two posts

Edited by keith margam 12/11/2013 09:52
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12 November 2013 09:46 Post ID: #124506 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Falcao FC Stockholm
Ex-Premier League referee Jeff Winter has stated that referees should be able to speak out and explain their controversial decisions in a game,after both Swans and West Brom were robbed of wins over the weekend by the diabolical decisions of referees.
For us,we also need an explanation of the five bookings that the mad Madley gave us. We were not the dirty side in that game to justify that many bookings. Stoke were the thugs.especially Charlie Adam,who was also booked,but they only got three yellows.
We have to sort out our defensive frailities in the coming two week break, which were exposed in the first half on Sunday. Stoke,languishing at the bottom of the table and without a win in seven games were 2-0 up away from home going into the break. Should Amat partner Williams until Chico regains his form,or do we persevere with him,he's letting in many goals lately with his mistakes. We also have the forgotten man,promising centre half Kyle Bartley,on loan at Birmingham.
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12 November 2013 23:37 Post ID: #124513 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Great Yarmouth FC

Have given my comments on the ref in the other thread but have to say he also had a hand in the first Stoke goal by not allowing Ash back on the field leaving us short at the back as they broke away. The second Stoke goal was a good goal I have to admit but it did come against the run of play at the time. For us to come back in the second half with three goals was a great achievement, we looked like our old selves and the belief was there especially with the introduction of speed from Nathan. This time there was an end product from him which will give him great satisfaction, have to say the introduction of Shelvey also added to our momentum. He is better going forward as a sub as his energy levels are high against a tiring side, well done for ML for the changes. Just a shame we were not rewarded with the three points we fully deserved.

As for Chico he does have to stop the antics, maybe he needs to spend some time on the sidelines until he learns we here in Swansea don't like theatricals unless it's at the Grand Theatre.
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13 November 2013 10:42 Post ID: #124517 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Hertha Berlin
Yes,it seemed this ref had an agenda with us from the beginning. Ash was waving frantically to come back on and the ref ignored him as Stoke broke away and scored,Ben and Chico getting in each others way and making a mess of the tackle didn't help
It seems we have to go to an away match to watch Saturday afternoon football,with Fulham next up,at a proper kick off time.
Jol must be on the edge of the precipice there,hopefully he won't be sacked until we've played them,we owe them one from the 0-3 defeat at the Liberty last season.
Norwich is an early kick off 1:30,tough to travel all that way so early,no consideration for fans. The only consolation is that we get home earlier,always depending on how long the Norwich Police keep the away fans waiting before allowing us to go.
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13 November 2013 16:00 Post ID: #124522 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Ipswich Town

The Fulham game takes on added significance after our unfortunate draw v Stoke, we need to get something from a team that will be already be sweating over their recent performances. We were surprisingly beaten by them on the last day of the season and it will be something that both managers will be keen to focus on, Jol will be encouraging his players after the three points they got at the Liberty whilst our manager will be looking for a similar display to the one we produced at Craven Cottage last season.

For the Norwich game I will be staying near London after flying back from Switzerland late on the Friday night as it seemed pointless coming back west only to return twenty four hours later. Norwich will be doing all they can to make it difficult for us knowing that our team will have been in Europe, never easy at Carrow Road anyway but would love us to come away from there with a point or three.
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14 November 2013 10:55 Post ID: #124527 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Jeunesse Esch,Luxemburg
Perhaps we'll have a full squad to call upon,with Michu training in his special weightless machine. The Internationals will take their toll for those involved,so they won't have a rest before another hectic run of fixtures to the end of the year.
BT have finally given us a live match,after repeatedly showing Liverpool home and away,one of their bosses must be a Liverpool fan. They are showing our midweek match at home to Newcastle in December. I changed internet provider to get BT Sport,but as yet I can only get it on the internet,as BT Infinity is not yet active in my particular area,even though the main exchange is taking orders from providers.
Norwich are our bogey team,so it would be nice to win up there after such a long journey. No Grant Holt this time,and there wasn't a bigger play actor than him,especially when they played us,diving and looking for free kicks.
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14 November 2013 17:41 Post ID: #124531 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Kettering Town

Have watched a few games on BT sport but have to say Michael Owen is a terrible pundit and co commentator, that Newcastle game in December will now have even less away fans travelling south I reckon although to be fair the Geordies still tend to travel in good numbers. At least they have a great view to watch their team from our North Stand, keep saying this about St James but it is definitely the worst place for an away fan to be. Travelling six hours for a birds eye view puts many of ours off but I'll be making my umpteenth visit up North, remember my first visit was in the Toshack era when we had a decent view standing on the terrace behind the goal and there were only around 14,000 there. We won that one and have done relatively well there over the years.

Edited by Swan_Lady2 14/11/2013 17:44
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15 November 2013 09:09 Post ID: #124536 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Limoges FC,France
Our ground has got be amongst the top for best views and leg room for away fans. Some of the grounds are very poor in the Premier League.They may look impressive on tv,but to actually sit in those seats you are either squashed or have no leg room. The decrepid Everton ,Liverpool and Palace grounds,and even Man Utd,lack space and good views,but Newcastle has got to be the worst view for away fans in the PL,yet the city is one of the best to visit.We know that away fans will be given the worst seats in the stadium,but the biggest surprise was the Wolves ground,where we were on the half way line and had a great view.
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15 November 2013 16:05 Post ID: #124540 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Morton FC

Yes agree and surprised that several of the older prem grounds have very poor facilities and seating for away fans, the best for me is at Arsenal with the padded seats and good views though there was an incident with a tomato sauce bottle lobbed down into our section by an irate home fan above us last season which hit my friend. Despite reporting it and sending emails we never got an explanation or apology from the club. Hopefully they have now reverted to giving out sachets of sauce.
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16 November 2013 11:14 Post ID: #124545 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Nantes FC
There's always one nutter that spoils it for the rest.
Arsenal's got to be the best ground in the PL,but how did they allow it to be jammed in with new buildings being constructed so close.
Morten Weighorst has had to come out in defence of Chico after the Stoke Press published hypocrite Jon Walters' outburst accusing Chico of cheating,which went viral worlwide. Morten says he doesn't condone play acting but they have video evidence of Nzonzi hitting Chico in the throat.He also mentioned that some teams come to the Liberty and time waste throughout the match. We know that's a dig at Stoke and probably West Ham amongst others.
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16 November 2013 13:43 Post ID: #124549 - in reply to #123989
Ivor Allchurch
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Oldham Athletic

Glad our assistant manager is sticking up for the players bit rich coming from a Stoke team that dived around all day. Didn't see the incident very well at the time but the problem with Chico is that he does tend to go down unnecessarily theatrically if touched which doesn't go down too well amongst our own fans let alone our opponents.

News on Pablo is that it was his other leg that was injured this time, it concerns me that he is so fragile as we really need him to be fit during this long campaign, his skill can win us matches when things are tight and could be vital if we keep dropping points as we seem to be doing lately.
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