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Do You Want Cup Success This Year?

Do You Want Cup Success This Year?

I raised a topic in our forum today about the Johnstone's Paint Trophy competition, asking fans if they wanted us to do well in this cup or would they prefer the Swans to solely concentrate on the League.

Kenny Jackett led us to a victory in the Trophy final two years ago at the Millennium Stadium, and while I would love a trip to the new Wembley, I think the 6-player rule could hinder our progress.

The rule means that clubs must start at least 6 first-team players. This rule is trying to avoid the competition from being devalued by clubs not taking the cup seriously and naming reserve sides. But I think it's having a negative effect on the clubs participating.

I honestly think that we are one of the favourites to win it, along with Leeds, Doncaster and Yeovil. But I think we'd have a better chance of winning it if this rule wasn't in place. We have a large squad here and we have a number of players who are capable of challenging for a regular first team place, which enables us to name a strong second-string side.

As Martinez stated after our first round win, cup games are useful to test non-first-teamers, youngsters and players just coming back from injury. But the Johnstone's Paint Trophy doesn't give us the opportunity to do this.

If we continue to progress in this Trophy then our first teamers will be playing more games, we'll pick up more injuries which could affect our League progress.

If we didn't have this rule, I think Martinez would be looking to win this competition a lot more than he maybe is now. As we've seen in the Carling Cup, we can field a decent second/reserves side that is competitive against stiff opposition, Premiership side Reading being an example.

Players like Guillem Bauza, Andrea Orlandi, Paul Anderson and Joe Allen need to be playing regularly in my opinion. Bauza has arrived from Spain and will not enjoy doing nothing sitting on a subs bench, just like the rest of the squad.

The same goes for the others. Paul Anderson has huge potential arriving from Liverpool, and Benitez will want the youngster to be picking up League experience with us during his loan.

Andrea Orlandi is another new signing from Spain. The cup is a great opportunity to see how our new signings are fitting in within the squad but as it stands we have no chance to do this.

Joe Allen has been excellent for us in the Carling Cup and the 17 year-old clearly has huge potential. He's not ready to play regularly in the League just yet but cup games with a Swansea senior side will only help him develop and and improve his chances of making his full League debut. He's playing for the Wales squad but he also needs to be playing games amongst his Swansea team mates.

Although I'd like to see reach the final at Wembley, I wouldn't be bothered if we lose in the next round. The league is our absolute top priority this season and progress in the JPT could hinder our chances of promotion. However, my views would be different if the 6-player rule wasn't in place. First teamers could be rested, we could progress through the competition trying to reach the final and avoid our most important players picking up injuries.

Views from our forum:

We have a big squad compare to many teams in the divison & there are a lot of players that need games, but we'll only be able to play a few of them. Craney, Allen, Butler, Amankwaah, Knight, Bauza, MacDonald and i suppose you could include O'Leary & Anderson in that list of non-regulars too. All those players could do with games yet we can only play 5 of them. If Feeney & Orlandi were available they'd probably be in that group aswell & we couldn't have played them.....

I don't agree with the rules being able to dictate who we should be able to pick. Like you said MJ we have a big squad and everybody needs as much game time as they can possibly get. This is interferring too much with team selections and they should just get rid of this rule.
jack hammers

whoever put this into place, probably the football league, mean good but have got this completely wrong. they are trying to raise the profile by getting teams to play more of their first team regulars, but if, like tonight, teams start substituting after just 10 minutes then the competition will become more of a laughing stock anyway. but what i don't understand, is how a first team regular is determined, for example, how many games do they need to play, and how do teams get punished if they don't pick six first team regulars.

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Date:Friday September 7 2007
Time: 5:51PM


yer i would want us to win it coz there is more money put into the club and we got trophys to show how good we are lets be realistic we aint going to win the fa cup or carling cup but we can win this one. and also it be nice to have a trip to wembley!!
07/09/2007 19:43:00
you don't win that much in the JPT. Isn't it only £100k you get for winning?
07/09/2007 22:19:00
Thats still £100k we wouldn't have if we didn't win it!
jack hammers
07/09/2007 22:50:00
but how much would we gain by getting promotion?
08/09/2007 00:37:00
Surely a good side can do both.... i really hope Rotherham are up for every game we take part in.
08/09/2007 01:03:00
yes we have a big enough squad to compete in different competitions but the point i was making is that we have to keep playing a first team in the JPT. swansea have a habit of picking up loads of injuries all at once!
08/09/2007 01:17:00
08/09/2007 14:41:00
I think its an opportunity for the squad players to show us what they have, if we do well great, but wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
09/09/2007 14:12:00
well if martinez is so fussed about playing 6 first teamers, why is he complaining about it if he also says the players who dont aply are good enough aswell...if 1 of our first teamers gets injured or tired the one of the non first tamers should be able to fit into the team easily. So really there is no excuse to not winning this trophy with squad we have
09/09/2007 20:27:00
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